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Post by gmanwest on Dec 19, 2013 22:08:10 GMT -6
Hey Alcorn, we have a 76-77 year old fella that y'all are welcome to take.
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Post by Tiger Paw on Apr 4, 2014 10:06:22 GMT -6
Has this been in the works?
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Post by Ashley A on Apr 4, 2014 10:43:26 GMT -6
Being #gramfam, and from Little Rock and seeing the things that Dr. Hill has done for ABC in just the last couple years is amazing. My vote is for him!
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Post by Spin Doctor on Apr 4, 2014 10:52:26 GMT -6
Has this been in the works? Yes it has.
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Post by edcrane on Apr 4, 2014 12:11:14 GMT -6
Being #gramfam, and from Little Rock and seeing the things that Dr. Hill has done for ABC in just the last couple years is amazing. My vote is for him! Please! What has he accomplished at crappy ol ABC that makes you think he can lead the Mighty Grambling State University!
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Post by clflemon on Apr 4, 2014 13:44:22 GMT -6
Being #gramfam, and from Little Rock and seeing the things that Dr. Hill has done for ABC in just the last couple years is amazing. My vote is for him! Please! What has he accomplished at crappy ol ABC that makes you think he can lead the Mighty Grambling State University! O naw ABC not doing good at all.
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Post by mrevans on Apr 4, 2014 18:46:29 GMT -6
Being #gramfam, and from Little Rock and seeing the things that Dr. Hill has done for ABC in just the last couple years is amazing. My vote is for him! Please! What has he accomplished at crappy ol ABC that makes you think he can lead the Mighty Grambling State University! Look at it this way. Bring Fritz Hill to GSU and Billy Owens triumphantly returns with him. To get serious for a minute--Gramblinites, this is a very serious time. Althougth this is a closed forum, some of the comments posted here are taken seriously by lurking members and guests. Before commenting on potential president candidates, do your homework. Arkansas Baptist College is in serious trouble. One of the reasons that ABC is in trouble is that Billy Owens is the College's chief financial officer. You know Billy Owens or at least you should know Billy Owens. For several years, he was Vice President for Finance at GSU. Owens has done the same thing at ABC that he did at GSU, Texas Southern, Tuskegee, and numerous other HBCUs. He was fired from GSU and just about every other institution that was dumb enough to hire him. In the case of GSU, Owens was forced on us. Whatever Hill's other qualities, the fact that he would hire and keep Billy Owens as his CFO disqualifies him for consideration as a candidate for GSU's president. When you consider that Billy Owens also serves as Hill's Executive Vice President, no self-respecting Gramblinite should ever let Fritz Hill's name cross his/her mind again.
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Post by GramFamShreveport on Apr 4, 2014 21:35:58 GMT -6
1. Walter Kimbrough (May be being recruited by SU BR now) 2. Cynthia Jackson-Hammond, Grambling Alumni, President of Central State University
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Post by tiawilliams on Apr 5, 2014 5:46:48 GMT -6
Cynthia Jackson Hammmond would be my choice.
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 5, 2014 9:23:42 GMT -6
Cynthia Jackson Hammmond would be my choice. Where was she when we hired Dr. Judson and Dr. Pogue?.....It's amazing that now she appears.
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Post by tigerhayes on Apr 6, 2014 16:42:09 GMT -6
I would be happy with Cynthia Hammond, Sylvia Jenkins, and VerJanis Peoples, and I like Donna Oliver, former President at MVSU.
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 6, 2014 16:48:24 GMT -6
I reject without even seeing the resume of a former president of MVSU.....My standards are a lot higher.
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Post by clflemon on Apr 6, 2014 16:54:27 GMT -6
I reject without even seeing the resume of a former president of MVSU.....My standards are a lot higher. Me Too!!! I'm scare for our/my school now for real.
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Post by edcrane on Apr 6, 2014 17:18:48 GMT -6
I would be happy with Cynthia Hammond, Sylvia Jenkins, and VerJanis Peoples, and I like Donna Oliver, former President at MVSU. I hope you are not on the committee for mentioning Donna Oliver.
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Post by tigerhayes on Apr 6, 2014 18:20:06 GMT -6
I really do like Donna Oliver, she was turning Mississippi Valley around, before her contract was not renewed, I understand some reservations about her, but I personally like what she was starting to do at Valley.
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Post by Catmendue2 on Apr 25, 2014 8:53:38 GMT -6
Please! What has he accomplished at crappy ol ABC that makes you think he can lead the Mighty Grambling State University! Look at it this way. Bring Fritz Hill to GSU and Billy Owens triumphantly returns with him. To get serious for a minute--Gramblinites, this is a very serious time. Althougth this is a closed forum, some of the comments posted here are taken seriously by lurking members and guests. Before commenting on potential president candidates, do your homework. Arkansas Baptist College is in serious trouble. One of the reasons that ABC is in trouble is that Billy Owens is the College's chief financial officer. You know Billy Owens or at least you should know Billy Owens. For several years, he was Vice President for Finance at GSU. Owens has done the same thing at ABC that he did at GSU, Texas Southern, Tuskegee, and numerous other HBCUs. He was fired from GSU and just about every other institution that was dumb enough to hire him. In the case of GSU, Owens was forced on us. Whatever Hill's other qualities, the fact that he would hire and keep Billy Owens as his CFO disqualifies him for consideration as a candidate for GSU's president. When you consider that Billy Owens also serves as Hill's Executive Vice President, no self-respecting Gramblinite should ever let Fritz Hill's name cross his/her mind again. Yep Billy Owens is bad news for any university.
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Post by Catmendue2 on Apr 25, 2014 8:56:06 GMT -6
Cynthia Jackson Hammmond would be my choice. Great choice. But she is from Monroe, like that really matters.
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Post by pink12 on Apr 27, 2014 13:05:12 GMT -6
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 27, 2014 14:33:44 GMT -6
She is not ready for primetime......We would be hiring a community college president.....Do you think that is the direction the state is trying to lead us to?
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Post by pink12 on Apr 27, 2014 15:45:40 GMT -6
She is not ready for primetime......We would be hiring a community college president.....Do you think that is the direction the state is trying to lead us to? Based on GSU’s location and capital assets, I believe the state is desirous to re-purpose GSU’s primary mission and reduce offerings to address broad and systemic state educational deficiencies and provide greater general and remedial educational opportunities/remedies. Now, the manner in which this mission is defined/captured/titled institutionally may be very appeasing and political in nature. I would not anticipate the demographics at GSU greatly changing. I suggest the next GSU Presidential appointment, and the deployment of state resources/budget will further disclose the direction. Is his background a coincidence? www.thenewsstar.com/article/DI/20140402/NEWS01/304020034/GSU-hires-Jackson-State-s-Hayes-as-admissions-director
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 27, 2014 17:22:44 GMT -6
She is not ready for primetime......We would be hiring a community college president.....Do you think that is the direction the state is trying to lead us to? Based on GSU’s location and capital assets, I believe the state is desirous to re-purpose GSU’s primary mission and reduce offerings to address broad and systemic state educational deficiencies and provide greater general and remedial educational opportunities/remedies. Now, the manner in which this mission is defined/captured/titled institutionally may be very appeasing and political in nature. I would not anticipate the demographics at GSU greatly changing. I suggest the next GSU Presidential appointment, and the deployment of state resources/budget will further disclose the direction. Is his background a coincidence? www.thenewsstar.com/article/DI/20140402/NEWS01/304020034/GSU-hires-Jackson-State-s-Hayes-as-admissions-directorIt would be shameful for all GSU alumni to sit back and allow that to happen.....If that happens, we have some of the dumbest, most docile, and political illiterate alumns in the country.....GSU has been in it's same location for decades.....GSU's location is in a rural area just like Alcorn, PVU, and some other PWCs......La College and LSU Alexandria are 2 four year institutions in the same area of Louisiana.....Do you know of either school to be in danger?
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Post by pink12 on Apr 27, 2014 18:16:02 GMT -6
Based on GSU’s location and capital assets, I believe the state is desirous to re-purpose GSU’s primary mission and reduce offerings to address broad and systemic state educational deficiencies and provide greater general and remedial educational opportunities/remedies. Now, the manner in which this mission is defined/captured/titled institutionally may be very appeasing and political in nature. I would not anticipate the demographics at GSU greatly changing. I suggest the next GSU Presidential appointment, and the deployment of state resources/budget will further disclose the direction. Is his background a coincidence? www.thenewsstar.com/article/DI/20140402/NEWS01/304020034/GSU-hires-Jackson-State-s-Hayes-as-admissions-directorIt would be shameful for all GSU alumni to sit back and allow that to happen.....If that happens, we have some of the dumbest, most docile, and political illiterate alumns in the country.....GSU has been in it's same location for decades.....GSU's location is in a rural area just like Alcorn, PVU, and some other PWCs......La College and LSU Alexandria are 2 four year institutions in the same area of Louisiana.....Do you know of either school to be in danger? When I speak of location and capital assets, presently, there is not a community/junior college in Northern LA with student-resident facilities, moreover, logistically could serve as a feeder to the full service institutions between Shreveport and Monroe (I-20 corridor). Plus, there are systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level towards certain special populations, which the state of LA MAY have to eventually address and remedy in the near future. Remember Brown Hall? It existed and was state-funded because of systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level in the state of LA and across the South. Same conditions different day. I truly hope I am wrongheaded, however, it would be naïve for us, stakeholders to ignore/discount the indicators either. That said, unselfishly, I believe our young people, especially black boys, need remediation, and greater access to normal and affordable educational opportunities. Please do not discount the potential impact of the recent Supreme Court decision on considerations for admissions to Universities on young people of color and access to educational opportunities for many of the non-gifted/exceptional and non-student-athletes. We will see what is GSU's mission and role.
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 27, 2014 19:35:31 GMT -6
It would be shameful for all GSU alumni to sit back and allow that to happen.....If that happens, we have some of the dumbest, most docile, and political illiterate alumns in the country.....GSU has been in it's same location for decades.....GSU's location is in a rural area just like Alcorn, PVU, and some other PWCs......La College and LSU Alexandria are 2 four year institutions in the same area of Louisiana.....Do you know of either school to be in danger? When I speak of location and capital assets, presently, there is not a community/junior college in Northern LA with student-resident facilities, moreover, logistically could serve as a feeder to the full service institutions between Shreveport and Monroe (I-20 corridor). Plus, there are systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level towards certain special populations, which the state of LA MAY have to eventually address and remedy in the near future. Remember Brown Hall? It existed and was state-funded because of systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level in the state of LA and across the South. Same conditions different day. I truly hope I am wrongheaded, however, it would be naïve for us, stakeholders to ignore/discount the indicators either. That said, unselfishly, I believe our young people, especially black boys, need remediation, and greater access to normal and affordable educational opportunities. Please do not discount the potential impact of the recent Supreme Court decision on considerations for admissions to Universities on young people of color and access to educational opportunities for many of the non-gifted/exceptional and non-student-athletes. We will see what is GSU's mission and role. You could be spot on, but I still say that we have some very docile and unsavvy political alumni if we allow that to happen to a one hundred and fourteen year old university that have changed so many lives.....My guess is it could happen with the careless mindset of our alumni.....Most of our alumni think that it should be ok for me to send my kin to keep Grambling afloat, but it is not good enough to send theirs.....That is one reason that I pull for DJ.....Our other alumni with talented kids want send theirs, but they enjoy criticizing a kid like DJ.....Sammy White sent his son Trey White, so he practice what he preach. Now my theory of Grambling being turned into a community college is questioned by the economical impact that it will have on Ruston.....Their stores will be empty and their hotels will lose a lot of revenue and tax dollars for the city and Lincoln Parish.....The loss of the Bayou Classic by New Orleans will be a large economical hit on that city.....Southern could not sustain that type of classic by playing another university instead of Grambling.....What then would New Orleans do?.....In saying all of that, I wouldn't put anything past the politics of the state of Louisiana and the I don't give a damn by most of our alumni.
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Post by pink12 on Apr 27, 2014 20:42:52 GMT -6
When I speak of location and capital assets, presently, there is not a community/junior college in Northern LA with student-resident facilities, moreover, logistically could serve as a feeder to the full service institutions between Shreveport and Monroe (I-20 corridor). Plus, there are systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level towards certain special populations, which the state of LA MAY have to eventually address and remedy in the near future. Remember Brown Hall? It existed and was state-funded because of systemic educational deficiencies at the secondary level in the state of LA and across the South. Same conditions different day. I truly hope I am wrongheaded, however, it would be naïve for us, stakeholders to ignore/discount the indicators either. That said, unselfishly, I believe our young people, especially black boys, need remediation, and greater access to normal and affordable educational opportunities. Please do not discount the potential impact of the recent Supreme Court decision on considerations for admissions to Universities on young people of color and access to educational opportunities for many of the non-gifted/exceptional and non-student-athletes. We will see what is GSU's mission and role. You could be spot on, but I still say that we have some very docile and unsavvy political alumni if we allow that to happen to a one hundred and fourteen year old university that have changed so many lives.....My guess is it could happen with the careless mindset of our alumni.....Most of our alumni think that it should be ok for me to send my kin to keep Grambling afloat, but it is not good enough to send theirs.....That is one reason that I pull for DJ.....Our other alumni with talented kids want send theirs, but they enjoy criticizing a kid like DJ.....Sammy White sent his son Trey White, so he practice what he preach. Now my theory of Grambling being turned into a community college is questioned by the economical impact that it will have on Ruston.....Their stores will be empty and their hotels will lose a lot of revenue and tax dollars for the city and Lincoln Parish.....The loss of the Bayou Classic by New Orleans will be a large economical hit on that city.....Southern could not sustain that type of classic by playing another university instead of Grambling.....What then would New Orleans do?.....In saying all of that, I wouldn't put anything past the politics of the state of Louisiana and the I don't give a damn by most of our alumni. Hopefully, with leadership and dialogues, at some point, matters may be blended, earnestly administered/directed and sufficiently funded in manners, which provides increased general/basic educational opportunities, while allowing GSU to maintain GSU's functionality and mission as a full service four-year institution of higher learning. What is the acceptable balance/blend? Unless some things have changed recently the state of LA Laws prohibit full service four-year institutions from remediating or funding such coursework with its appropriations. I am not sure what are the solutions which may satisfy GSU's stakeholders; efficiently and effectively deploy/use state resources/assets; moreover, adequately address and remedy the lack of access to normal and adequate educational opportunities and the needs of the young people in the state of LA, both retroactively and prospectively. This condition has disproportionally and adversely affected minority students. Kicking the can down the road or keeping GSU in limbo is inefficient, unfair, and is not doing any stakeholders any good, in my humble opinion. I suspect the economic impact may be a wash when taken as a whole.
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Post by gmanwest on Apr 28, 2014 0:00:14 GMT -6
You could be spot on, but I still say that we have some very docile and unsavvy political alumni if we allow that to happen to a one hundred and fourteen year old university that have changed so many lives.....My guess is it could happen with the careless mindset of our alumni.....Most of our alumni think that it should be ok for me to send my kin to keep Grambling afloat, but it is not good enough to send theirs.....That is one reason that I pull for DJ.....Our other alumni with talented kids want send theirs, but they enjoy criticizing a kid like DJ.....Sammy White sent his son Trey White, so he practice what he preach. Now my theory of Grambling being turned into a community college is questioned by the economical impact that it will have on Ruston.....Their stores will be empty and their hotels will lose a lot of revenue and tax dollars for the city and Lincoln Parish.....The loss of the Bayou Classic by New Orleans will be a large economical hit on that city.....Southern could not sustain that type of classic by playing another university instead of Grambling.....What then would New Orleans do?.....In saying all of that, I wouldn't put anything past the politics of the state of Louisiana and the I don't give a damn by most of our alumni. Hopefully, with leadership and dialogues, at some point, matters may be blended, earnestly administered/directed and sufficiently funded in manners, which provides increased general/basic educational opportunities, while allowing GSU to maintain GSU's functionality and mission as a full service four-year institution of higher learning. What is the acceptable balance/blend? Unless some things have changed recently the state of LA Laws prohibit full service four-year institutions from remediating or funding such coursework with its appropriations. I am not sure what are the solutions which may satisfy GSU's stakeholders; efficiently and effectively deploy/use state resources/assets; moreover, adequately address and remedy the lack of access to normal and adequate educational opportunities and the needs of the young people in the state of LA, both retroactively and prospectively. This condition has disproportionally and adversely affected minority students. Kicking the can down the road or keeping GSU in limbo is inefficient, unfair, and is not doing any stakeholders any good, in my humble opinion. I suspect the economic impact may be a wash when taken as a whole. It will not be a wash with the merchants in Ruston....I know I personally will never pass back through Grambling or Ruston unless I am visiting relatives in Ruston.....I have no desire to be affiliated with a community college in that neck of the woods.....Pink12, I really believe that you are underestimating the economic impact of Grambling in Lincoln Parish and the state of Louisiana.....I also think that Grambling is valued more than you think even on a national basis.
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