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Post by gmanwest on Aug 1, 2013 0:47:02 GMT -6
We need to be more pro-active, otherwise our enrollment will drop tremendously......Check this out if you haven't: Search Southern enrollment rebounding Advocate staff photo by ARTHUR D. LAUCK -- Southern University's Chief Student Marshal Messan Dodji Folivi leads students into the F.G. Clark Activity Center during Friday's graduation ceremony. The native of Togo, in West Africa, graduated with a cumulative 3.93 gpa. He plans to attend medical schools in the fall.Show caption By Koran Addo kaddo@theadvocate.com August 01, 2013 3 Comments After years of disappointing student enrollment, Southern University Chancellor James Llorens said Wednesday he is optimistic that this year could be different. More than 820 potential first-time freshman showed up to a recent summer orientation program, he said, marking one of the better showings the Baton Rouge university has had in years. By comparison, Southern enrolled 777 full-time freshman last fall. Enrollment has been a source of increasing concern on the Baton Rouge campus. The school peaked at around 10,000 students in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina before several consecutive years of free-falling student losses. “We have been losing between 300 and 400 students per year,” Llorens said during a meeting with the Advocate’s editorial board Wednesday. Llorens blamed the enrollment declines on rising tuition costs and tougher admission standards phased in by the state seven years ago. Additionally, tuition at Louisiana’s colleges and universities has risen steadily over the past several years as schools have struggled to offset nearly $700 million in state budget cuts to higher education. Consequently, many of Louisiana’s schools have gotten creative. They’ve employed outreach campaigns at high schools, increased their online course offerings and expanded recruiting efforts. Southern is no different, Llorens said. Students can now take full degree programs in criminal justice, interdisciplinary studies and public administration online. On the recruiting side, Southern has started offering tuition waivers — worth roughly $4,000 per semester — to students from Texas, Mississippi and Arkansas provided those students finish high school with a 2.75 grade-point-average, score at least a 20 or 940, respectively, on the ACT or SAT standardized test, and then maintain their GPA while in school. Students from states that don’t border Louisiana can qualify for the waivers with a 3.0 GPA and a 22 ACT or 1030 SAT score. Southern has also taken a particularly keen interest in international students, recently entering into partnerships with universities in Turkey and Brazil. Southern University spokesman Ed Pratt estimates Southern will enroll up to a combined 50 students from those countries this fall with the potential to expand those numbers in the future. Students who don’t meet the admissions criteria to get into Southern can still get on campus by enrolling in remedial courses through the Southern University System’s Shreveport campus, known as SUSLA. In other words, through the SUSLA Connect program, participating students would take classes taught by SUSLA-hired instructors, pay tuition and apply for financial aid through the Shreveport school, but be physically located on the Baton Rouge campus. The partnership allows students to cross-enroll, meaning they can take necessary developmental courses through SUSLA simultaneously with the college-level coursework offered by Southern. Students who complete 18 credit hours while maintaining a 2.0 grade-point-average have the option to continue taking classes at SUSLA, working toward an Associate’s degree, or to transfer to Southern as a student seeking a baccalaureate degree. theadvocate.com/home/6657588-125/southern-enrollment-rebounding
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Post by clflemon on Aug 1, 2013 13:00:42 GMT -6
GREAT POST PARTNER.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 1, 2013 14:35:59 GMT -6
This current administration is totally reactive... they don't understand how to implement 'meaningful' proactive strategic initiatives.
I have been told, our enrollment (revenue) is in a precipitous decline—and the president has no idea how to stop the bleeding or alter the trend.
I'm sure others can fill you in.
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Post by djmcneal15 on Aug 2, 2013 11:13:58 GMT -6
One good way for Grambling to increase enrollment is to work on academic excellence and find away to fight back the talk of accreditation issues. Grambling's accreditation has been a joke amongst the Louisianians I know for a long time. I'm not sure what non-HBCU schools do from a PR perspective to control talk about accreditation issues, but Grambling needs to start doing it too. While growing up all I heard about Grambling were how good of a coach Eddie Rob was, how good the band was, and how Grambling had accreditation issues. Before making my choice to go to Grambling I was worried about going to Gram due to all the talk I was hearing about accreditation. Had I not done more research and talk to a few people I knew that worked at Gram, I would have been an LSU Tiger.(I had kicked SU off of my list before they got on it!!!) Grambling's marketing also has to improve big time. Just getting the name out there does a lot to encourage people to at least find out more about Grambling. The football team in the past and the band still currently do a good job of getting Grambling's name out to the public, but its not enough. We have to create a strong presence locally meaning Ruston and Grambling, statewide, and nationwide. Louisiana Tech have their name blasted everywhere in Ruston. LSU has their name blasted in almost every nook and cranny in the state and even in other states next to other big name schools. Why can't Grambling make a nationwide presence its goal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 10:09:51 GMT -6
There are a lot of HBCUs that have had accredidation issues. FAMU is one of them. We don't have accredidation problems now, so where are you trying to go with this? I never wanted to be a LSU Tiger because of other issues at their school, such as flying the purple and gold confederate stars and stripe flag. To each his own.
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Post by edcrane on Aug 3, 2013 10:32:45 GMT -6
One good way for Grambling to increase enrollment is to work on academic excellence and find away to fight back the talk of accreditation issues. Grambling's accreditation has been a joke amongst the Louisianians I know for a long time. I'm not sure what non-HBCU schools do from a PR perspective to control talk about accreditation issues, but Grambling needs to start doing it too. While growing up all I heard about Grambling were how good of a coach Eddie Rob was, how good the band was, and how Grambling had accreditation issues. Before making my choice to go to Grambling I was worried about going to Gram due to all the talk I was hearing about accreditation. Had I not done more research and talk to a few people I knew that worked at Gram, I would have been an LSU Tiger.(I had kicked SU off of my list before they got on it!!!) Grambling's marketing also has to improve big time. Just getting the name out there does a lot to encourage people to at least find out more about Grambling. The football team in the past and the band still currently do a good job of getting Grambling's name out to the public, but its not enough. We have to create a strong presence locally meaning Ruston and Grambling, statewide, and nationwide. Louisiana Tech have their name blasted everywhere in Ruston. LSU has their name blasted in almost every nook and cranny in the state and even in other states next to other big name schools. Why can't Grambling make a nationwide presence its goal? Where have you been the last two years? Grambling State has no accreditation problems anymore. We are making great progress but with Louisiana state budget cuts to higher education it's really hurting our university. We must support GSU through more giving and help recruit more students. And by the way, F@CK LSU!!
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Post by WhereYouBeen on Aug 3, 2013 13:29:08 GMT -6
Just an FYI: GSU has been giving out-of-state fee waivers to all states since around 2002. GSU started referring students to its BPCC@GSU Program in 2010. GSU has not had a downturn in enrollment in the past few years; in spite of increased admission standards, increased tuition, and decreased budget. That will change unless innovative ways to offset massive budget cuts are implemented.
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Post by gmanwest on Aug 3, 2013 19:40:28 GMT -6
One good way for Grambling to increase enrollment is to work on academic excellence and find away to fight back the talk of accreditation issues. Grambling's accreditation has been a joke amongst the Louisianians I know for a long time. I'm not sure what non-HBCU schools do from a PR perspective to control talk about accreditation issues, but Grambling needs to start doing it too. While growing up all I heard about Grambling were how good of a coach Eddie Rob was, how good the band was, and how Grambling had accreditation issues. Before making my choice to go to Grambling I was worried about going to Gram due to all the talk I was hearing about accreditation. Had I not done more research and talk to a few people I knew that worked at Gram, I would have been an LSU Tiger.(I had kicked SU off of my list before they got on it!!!) Grambling's marketing also has to improve big time. Just getting the name out there does a lot to encourage people to at least find out more about Grambling. The football team in the past and the band still currently do a good job of getting Grambling's name out to the public, but its not enough. We have to create a strong presence locally meaning Ruston and Grambling, statewide, and nationwide. Louisiana Tech have their name blasted everywhere in Ruston. LSU has their name blasted in almost every nook and cranny in the state and even in other states next to other big name schools. Why can't Grambling make a nationwide presence its goal? Where have you been the last two years? Grambling State has no accreditation problems anymore. We are making great progress but with Louisiana state budget cuts to higher education it's really hurting our university. We must support GSU through more giving and help recruit more students. And by the way, F@CK LSU!! Great post Ed, man I didn't know you had that in you.
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Post by gmanwest on Aug 4, 2013 11:53:23 GMT -6
Just an FYI: GSU has been giving out-of-state fee waivers to all states since around 2002. GSU started referring students to its BPCC@GSU Program in 2010. GSU has not had a downturn in enrollment in the past few years; in spite of increased admission standards, increased tuition, and decreased budget. That will change unless innovative ways to offset massive budget cuts are implemented. They must give them in limited numbers because I know of an out of state kid with a 20 on the ACT and a 3.3 that was denied waver of his out of state fees from a bordering state.....He left GSU and enrolled at SFA.
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Post by edcrane on Aug 4, 2013 16:05:08 GMT -6
Dr. Pogue and the administration is on top of recruiting very hard but they can only do so much. So if we only have about the same amount this fall I will not hold it against them. With the many campus improvements that are taking place now and in the very near future I think enrollment will increase when students come to visit this fall. I saw the designs of Intramural Center renovations with the addition of the new swimming pool and it will help with recruiting. This month the bid is taking place on the Campus Beautification Project Phase II which include the front of the Union and plaze between the union and food court and in front of the food court. After looking over the designs it will make the area look outstanding. Hopefully it will be completed before Homecoming 2013. I must admit the adminstration is trying to move our campus appearence out of the fifties and sixties. Also I saw the new Tiger Statue and I was like WOW when I seen how the tiger will look. It will be huge and beautiful. Can't wait to see it in bronze. The details the artist has put into this statue are amazing and I believe after doing some checking will be the biggest Tiger Statue in the United States.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 16:50:21 GMT -6
Dr. Pogue and the administration is on top of recruiting very hard but they can only do so much. So if we only have about the same amount this fall I will not hold it against them. With the many campus improvements that are taking place now and in the very near future I think enrollment will increase when students come to visit this fall. I saw the designs of Intramural Center renovations with the addition of the new swimming pool and it will help with recruiting. This month the bid is taking place on the Campus Beautification Project Phase II which include the front of the Union and plaze between the union and food court and in front of the food court. After looking over the designs it will make the area look outstanding. Hopefully it will be complete before Homecoming 2013. I must admit the adminstration is trying to move our campus appearence out of the fifties and sixties. Also I saw the new Tiger Statue and I was like WOW when I seen how the tiger will look. It will be huge and beautiful. Can't wait to see it in bronze. The details the artist has but into this statue are amazing and I believe after doing some checking with be the biggest Tiger Statue in the United States. It's one of those cases where we're forced to choose between visual aesthetics vs. structural accountability and efficiency... I prefer both. Our current efforts are very minimal at best. We need comprehensive internal and external development. But I'll digress. I tried, but I can't concede to low expectations. If you evaluate what we are doing compared to what other 'sister' institutions are doing regarding enrollment management, recruiting, fundraising, grants, media and public relations, marketing, administrative personnel, budgeting, etc... It's night and day. Out attitude seems to be... Oh, this is good enough. All the while, the president keeps telling us our budget has been cut and half, and will continue to be cut... But he doesn't seem to have any ideas or plans to address any of the deficits... he's firing more and more employees... giving raising to friends... and hasn't done anything to organize and activate alumni participation and giving.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 17:01:32 GMT -6
There are a lot of HBCUs that have had accredidation issues. FAMU is one of them. We don't have accredidation problems now, so where are you trying to go with this? I never wanted to be a LSU Tiger because of other issues at their school, such as flying the purple and gold confederate stars and stripe flag. To each his own. He's talking about perception... and perception is a very real problem for us. We know the truth, but the truth is... others have outdated perceptions of the university, and our competitors use the early 2000's against us in recruiting. We are only 10 years out of those circumstances. We must continue to be proactive in making sure perspective students, counselors, etc. know the truth about the university and what's going on. That's why other presidents/administrations do statewide caravan tours... with students, athletes, academic folks, ambassadors, etc... To get the word out. I hate to say it, but our president is up in age, and his energy level is not conducive to all out sprints to achieve what we need to achieve in order to survive.
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Post by edcrane on Aug 4, 2013 17:19:22 GMT -6
Dr. Pogue and the administration is on top of recruiting very hard but they can only do so much. So if we only have about the same amount this fall I will not hold it against them. With the many campus improvements that are taking place now and in the very near future I think enrollment will increase when students come to visit this fall. I saw the designs of Intramural Center renovations with the addition of the new swimming pool and it will help with recruiting. This month the bid is taking place on the Campus Beautification Project Phase II which include the front of the Union and plaze between the union and food court and in front of the food court. After looking over the designs it will make the area look outstanding. Hopefully it will be complete before Homecoming 2013. I must admit the adminstration is trying to move our campus appearence out of the fifties and sixties. Also I saw the new Tiger Statue and I was like WOW when I seen how the tiger will look. It will be huge and beautiful. Can't wait to see it in bronze. The details the artist has but into this statue are amazing and I believe after doing some checking with be the biggest Tiger Statue in the United States. It's one of those cases where we're forced to choose between visual aesthetics vs. structural accountability and efficiency... I prefer both. Our current efforts are very minimal at best. We need comprehensive internal and external development. But I'll digress. I tried, but I can't concede to low expectations. If you evaluate what we are doing compared to what other 'sister' institutions are doing regarding enrollment management, recruiting, fundraising, grants, media and public relations, marketing, administrative personnel, budgeting, etc... It's night and day. Out attitude seems to be... Oh, this is good enough. All the while, the president keeps telling us our budget has been cut and half, and will continue to be cut... But he doesn't seem to have any ideas or plans to address any of the deficits... he's firing more and more employees... giving raising to friends... and hasn't done anything to organize and activate alumni participation and giving. Aesthetics mean alot to students now a days. Who want to go to a crap campus when LaTech and ULM is down the road and everything is top notch. You talking crazy! Those days are gone when students attend Grambling on the name along like back in the seventies and eighties when I attended GSU. I talk to alot of students and brought them to our campus over the years and the look turned them off and not the academics. Our academics have never been a problem with students attending our university but the campus facilites have been a thorn in our side. Since Dr. Pogue arrived he has done a great job with planning. Also what proof you have that they are not recruiting because I say otherwise. I'm doing my part as well with helping recruit students for our Dear Ol Grambling!
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Post by edcrane on Aug 4, 2013 17:34:09 GMT -6
There are a lot of HBCUs that have had accredidation issues. FAMU is one of them. We don't have accredidation problems now, so where are you trying to go with this? I never wanted to be a LSU Tiger because of other issues at their school, such as flying the purple and gold confederate stars and stripe flag. To each his own. He's talking about perception... and perception is a very real problem for us. We know the truth, but the truth is... others have outdated perceptions of the university, and our competitors use the early 2000's against us in recruiting. We are only 10 years out of those circumstances. We must continue to be proactive in making sure perspective students, counselors, etc. know the truth about the university and what's going on. That's why other presidents/administrations do statewide caravan tours... with students, athletes, academic folks, ambassadors, etc... To get the word out. I hate to say it, but our president is up in age, and his energy level is not conducive to all out sprints to achieve what we need to achieve in order to survive. I just have to ask are you involved with the university to see what they are doing first hand with helping with recruiting? Are you in the admission office or Office of Student Enrollment to see what they are doing and or you just looking from the outside making judgements on what you think they need to be doing? No matter what me and you think they should be doing we still need to show up and help the university. But one thing I do know is that Grambling State University will be okay and I mean OKAY compared to the mess we were in fifteen years ago.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 18:13:18 GMT -6
It's one of those cases where we're forced to choose between visual aesthetics vs. structural accountability and efficiency... I prefer both. Our current efforts are very minimal at best. We need comprehensive internal and external development. But I'll digress. I tried, but I can't concede to low expectations. If you evaluate what we are doing compared to what other 'sister' institutions are doing regarding enrollment management, recruiting, fundraising, grants, media and public relations, marketing, administrative personnel, budgeting, etc... It's night and day. Out attitude seems to be... Oh, this is good enough. All the while, the president keeps telling us our budget has been cut and half, and will continue to be cut... But he doesn't seem to have any ideas or plans to address any of the deficits... he's firing more and more employees... giving raising to friends... and hasn't done anything to organize and activate alumni participation and giving. Aesthetics mean alot to students now a days. Who want to go to a crap campus when LaTech and ULM is down the road and everything is top notch. You talking crazy! Those days are gone when students attend Grambling on the name along like back in the seventies and eighties when I attended GSU. I talk to alot of students and brought them to our campus over the years and the look turned them off and not the academics. Our academics have never been a problem with students attending our university but the campus facilites have been a thorn in our side. Since Dr. Pogue arrived he has done a great job with planning. Also what proof you have that they are not recruiting because I say otherwise. I'm doing my part as well with helping recruit students for our Dear Ol Grambling! I totally agree... If you go back and reread my statement, I said I prefer both!! We need campus beatification, but what gets you more campus beatification projects is a very smart and efficient staff working tirelessly to do the very best they can do for Grambling. Moderation leads to mediocrity, intensity leads to excellence.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 18:22:30 GMT -6
He's talking about perception... and perception is a very real problem for us. We know the truth, but the truth is... others have outdated perceptions of the university, and our competitors use the early 2000's against us in recruiting. We are only 10 years out of those circumstances. We must continue to be proactive in making sure perspective students, counselors, etc. know the truth about the university and what's going on. That's why other presidents/administrations do statewide caravan tours... with students, athletes, academic folks, ambassadors, etc... To get the word out. I hate to say it, but our president is up in age, and his energy level is not conducive to all out sprints to achieve what we need to achieve in order to survive. I just have to ask are you involved with the university to see what they are doing first hand with helping with recruiting? Are you in the admission office or Office of Student Enrollment to see what they are doing and or you just looking from the outside making judgements on what you think they need to be doing? No matter what me and you think they should be doing we still need to show up and help the university. But one thing I do know is that Grambling State University will be okay and I mean OKAY compared to the mess we were in fifteen years ago. The simple answer to your question is yes... what I share on this board is not hyperbole. I must say, however, the problems we faced 15 years ago were 70/30 academics... Now, the problems are 70/30 operations, business and finances. We are in a more 'difficult' time then we were 15 years ago. We're talking revenue, payroll, and sustainability. The issues are equally bad.
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Post by edcrane on Aug 4, 2013 18:26:51 GMT -6
I just have to ask are you involved with the university to see what they are doing first hand with helping with recruiting? Are you in the admission office or Office of Student Enrollment to see what they are doing and or you just looking from the outside making judgements on what you think they need to be doing? No matter what me and you think they should be doing we still need to show up and help the university. But one thing I do know is that Grambling State University will be okay and I mean OKAY compared to the mess we were in fifteen years ago. The simple answer to your question is yes... what I share on this board is not hyperbole. I must say, however, the problems we faced 15 years ago were 70/30 academics... Now, the problems are 70/30 operations, business and finances. We are in a more 'difficult' time then we were 15 years ago. We're talking revenue, payroll, and sustainability. The issues are equally bad. And GSU will get through this storm as well. Long Live Grambling State University!
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 18:41:58 GMT -6
The simple answer to your question is yes... what I share on this board is not hyperbole. I must say, however, the problems we faced 15 years ago were 70/30 academics... Now, the problems are 70/30 operations, business and finances. We are in a more 'difficult' time then we were 15 years ago. We're talking revenue, payroll, and sustainability. The issues are equally bad. And GSU will get through this storm as well. Long Live Grambling State University! I am hopeful... I am not optimistic.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 4, 2013 19:01:27 GMT -6
It's one of those cases where we're forced to choose between visual aesthetics vs. structural accountability and efficiency... I prefer both. Our current efforts are very minimal at best. We need comprehensive internal and external development. But I'll digress. I tried, but I can't concede to low expectations. If you evaluate what we are doing compared to what other 'sister' institutions are doing regarding enrollment management, recruiting, fundraising, grants, media and public relations, marketing, administrative personnel, budgeting, etc... It's night and day. Out attitude seems to be... Oh, this is good enough. All the while, the president keeps telling us our budget has been cut and half, and will continue to be cut... But he doesn't seem to have any ideas or plans to address any of the deficits... he's firing more and more employees... giving raising to friends... and hasn't done anything to organize and activate alumni participation and giving. Since Dr. Pogue arrived he has done a great job with planning. Also what proof you have that they are not recruiting because I say otherwise. Planning is good. But it's time for action and results... please give us the results. The proof of insufficient recruiting is... Enrollment is stagnant if not in decline—depending on who you ask. Ask the president—it's up. Ask admissions and recruiters—it's down.
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Post by WhereHaveYouBeen on Aug 4, 2013 20:04:31 GMT -6
As for enrollment you don't have to ASK anyone. Enrollment figures for all systems institutions are reported by the ULS, Regents, and GSU every year. Do your own research.
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Post by gramfamforever on Aug 5, 2013 9:54:09 GMT -6
As for enrollment you don't have to ASK anyone. Enrollment figures for all systems institutions are reported by the ULS, Regents, and GSU every year. Do your own research. Good point.
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Post by djmcneal15 on Oct 17, 2013 7:44:05 GMT -6
It's one of those cases where we're forced to choose between visual aesthetics vs. structural accountability and efficiency... I prefer both. Our current efforts are very minimal at best. We need comprehensive internal and external development. But I'll digress. I tried, but I can't concede to low expectations. If you evaluate what we are doing compared to what other 'sister' institutions are doing regarding enrollment management, recruiting, fundraising, grants, media and public relations, marketing, administrative personnel, budgeting, etc... It's night and day. Out attitude seems to be... Oh, this is good enough. All the while, the president keeps telling us our budget has been cut and half, and will continue to be cut... But he doesn't seem to have any ideas or plans to address any of the deficits... he's firing more and more employees... giving raising to friends... and hasn't done anything to organize and activate alumni participation and giving. Aesthetics mean alot to students now a days. Who want to go to a crap campus when LaTech and ULM is down the road and everything is top notch. You talking crazy! Those days are gone when students attend Grambling on the name along like back in the seventies and eighties when I attended GSU. I talk to alot of students and brought them to our campus over the years and the look turned them off and not the academics. Our academics have never been a problem with students attending our university but the campus facilites have been a thorn in our side. Since Dr. Pogue arrived he has done a great job with planning. Also what proof you have that they are not recruiting because I say otherwise. I'm doing my part as well with helping recruit students for our Dear Ol Grambling! Academics have always been a part of why some people choose others schools over Grambling. When making decisions on what school to attend, people are looking to get the most bang for their buck. I've loved Grambling since I was a little boy when my older cousins would take me on that trip on I-20 from Tallulah to GSU to watch another one of my cousins play football, but had I known that the CIS department was as weak as it was before going to Gram, I may would have made a a different choice. I graduated in 2008 from Grambling. I've seen what and how professors were teaching to the students and trust me, some should have never been hired. In one programming class the professor is teaching students to copy and paste code and that's the lesson. In an e-commerce class on day one the professor asked us what it skills did we have such as programming and troubleshooting. . . . after we tell him what we feel we do best, he tells us to teach each other the rest of the semester. I questioned front office people on why there wasn't a class on networking my freshmen year and there was finally a class added my senior year, but the instructor knew as much about networking as a freshmen kinesiology major would know about brain surgery. I have plenty of other stories about other instructors act gram in other departments too. I thank God that the group of CIS majors I hung with were as much into IT as me so we fed off of each other and learned things online and through internships we found on our own. Now that I've had a chance to take classes at other schools such as IU and Ball State I know academics is definitely something that should be looked at when trying to improve Grambling. I donate money regularly to Dear Ole Grambling but I know that more money doens't always mean better quality. I know a quite a few people that started at Gram with me that left because they felt they were getting a sub par education. I want to se Grambling move up. Grambling is not ranked on the best colleges list in the US. Gram is not even on the best HBCU list.
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Post by gmanwest on Oct 17, 2013 20:08:40 GMT -6
I have friends and relatives that graduated from Grambling that alumni of IU and other similar schools are working for....Grambling's CIS and Computer Science were both ranked higher prior Dr. Judson and Dr. Pogue.....Dr. Pogue told a group of us that the CIS major is in jeopardy at Grambling.....That's one more reason that we need him gone.
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Post by gramfamforever on Oct 17, 2013 20:20:51 GMT -6
I have friends and relatives that graduated from Grambling that alumni of IU and other similar schools are working for....Grambling's CIS and Computer Science were both ranked higher prior Dr. Judson and Dr. Pogue.....Dr. Pogue told a group of us that the CIS major is in jeopardy at Grambling.....That's one more reason that we need him gone. This is a tragic statement if true... CIS and Computer Science is the future of all education. Pogue equals death.
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Post by mfware on Oct 18, 2013 0:37:23 GMT -6
I have friends and relatives that graduated from Grambling that alumni of IU and other similar schools are working for....Grambling's CIS and Computer Science were both ranked higher prior Dr. Judson and Dr. Pogue.....Dr. Pogue told a group of us that the CIS major is in jeopardy at Grambling.....That's one more reason that we need him gone. This is a tragic statement if true... CIS and Computer Science is the future of all education. Pogue equals death. OK, let's get serious. President Pogue has serious issues, but facts are facts. The problems in Comptuter Science and Computer Information Systems has little to do with President Pogue. Back when President Favors was in office, Grambling was the top producer of African American graduates in Computer Science and Computer Information Systems. Dr. Favors did not create this situation. He found it when he came to Grambling. Dr. Favors did not screw it up. When he was fired, we were still either No. 1 or very close to No. 1. If memory serves, then we may have drifted down a bit under Dr. Warner, but we were still very high when President Judson came on board. The first time I heard President Judson mention our ranking, we were somewhere around No. 5. By the time President Judson was fired, we were No. 10 or No. 11. In 2011, the public colleges and university's in Louisiana were put through a low-completer review of its programs. The years tested were 2008, 2009, and 2010. Each of these three years saw President Judson as GSU President in whole are in part. GSU's once proud Computer Science program failed the low-completer review. Although this situation was sad; it hardly came as a surprise. Robert Dixon, Judson's Provost, was openly hostile to the program. The University managed to save Computer Science, but the program is on probationary status. The great problem faced by Computer Science today is a facet of the problem faced by most of Grambling's academic programs. That problem is Connie Walton. She is Dr. Pogue's Provost, but she was Dr. Judson's Dean of Arts and Sciences before that. As part of the University's proposal to save Computer Science, the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science was split. Computer Science was placed in its own department. In a very typical Connie Walton move, the department has no department head. To the best of my knowledge, it is down to just two faculty members. The University is doing nothing to help the program grow and prosper. There is no guarantee that the State will force another low-completer review any time soon. However, if there is another such review, then I fear that computer science and many other programs that survived that last review may not survive the next one. Computer Information Systems has a whole different set of problems. College of Business Dean Carl Wright left to become Provost at a university in Colorado. Connie Walton named Anthony Johnson, her assistant, to assume the authority of the Dean. Johnson is an educational assessment person who has no training in business. I don't know specifically how this directly impacts CIS, but it has a huge negative impact on the College of Business as a whole. The College is up for reaffirmation of AACSB accreditation this semester. It is my understanding that site visit is in November--next month. Yet the College has no qualified Dean. You see, the person directly responsible for our academic programs is Provost Connie Walton. The job description of Provost is the person who is second in command and who handles the day-to-day operations of the University. There is nothing at all unusual about the Provost's delegation of authority as the President has done. What is unusual is that Connie Walton is an absolutely terrible choice for the position. To the President's detriment, he is most incurious. There is many too many problems in the Division of Academic Affairs to count. However, the President supports the Provost and his other Vice Presidents to the N-th degree. This must change.
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